Description

In this opening episode of Hot Takes on the Classics, Emily Maeda and Tim McIntosh kick off Season 2 on the theme of love by diving into C.S. Lewis’s The Four Loves. They unpack Lewis’s taxonomy—Storge (affection), Philia (friendship), Eros (romantic love), and Agape (charity)—and explore how each form shapes human life and literature. Along the way, they challenge some of Lewis’s distinctions and bring in other thinkers like Joseph Pieper and D.C. Schindler to deepen the conversation. Emily delivers a hot take on Lewis’s framework: that separating natural and divine love might create confusion rather than clarity, especially when desire itself can be a holy path toward God.

Episode Outline

• Opening quote and overview of the new season on love
• The limitations of English vocabulary for expressing different kinds of love
• Introduction to C.S. Lewis’s taxonomy: storge, philia, eros, and agape
• Storge (affection): love rooted in familiarity, the everyday, and the home
• Philia (friendship): the bond of shared interest and mutual enjoyment
• Eros (romantic love): desire, ecstasy, and the longing that draws one out of oneself
• Agape (charity): selfless, divine love that affirms the other’s being
• Lewis’s distinction between natural and supernatural loves
• Emily critiques Lewis’s separation of the loves as overly rigid
• D.C. Schindler’s definition of love as mutual indwelling and unity
• Joseph Pieper on eros as a desire for integration and redemption
• The importance of affirming the other’s existence in true love
• Loving without self-interest, as illustrated by parental devotion
• Wrap-up and a preview of next week’s book selection

Key Topics & Takeaways

• Lewis’s Fourfold Taxonomy of Love: C.S. Lewis’s The Four Loves provides a helpful framework for differentiating between various forms of love: storge (affection), philia (friendship), eros (romantic love), and agape (charity), each with unique expressions and pitfalls.
• Storge as the Ground of Daily Love: This love includes the affection we have for family, routine pleasures, and homeland. Lewis sees it as the most foundational form of love, often taken for granted yet deeply stabilizing.
• Philia as the Least Jealous Love: Lewis elevates friendship as the noblest love, free from possessiveness and characterized by mutual delight in shared interests and visions. Friends “walk side by side, looking outward.”
• Eros as the Desire that Can Become Divine: Though Lewis warns of eros’s dangers—its potential to become possessive—Emily argues that eros, rightly ordered, reflects the ecstasy and hunger that can ultimately point us to divine union.
• Agape as Divine Overflow: Agape is selfless, gift-love—giving for the good of the other. Lewis emphasizes that it flows from God’s plenteousness, not lack, and thus becomes a model for human love at its highest.
• Critique of Lewis’s Categories: Emily questions Lewis’s binary between natural and supernatural loves. Drawing on Pieper and Schindler, she suggests that all love—rightly ordered—is already a participation in the divine.

Questions & Discussion

• How does C. S. Lewis’s taxonomy clarify or complicate our understanding of love? Consider whether the separation into four categories helps us discern different experiences—or whether, as Emily suggests, it risks oversimplifying their unity.
• What is your experience with friendship as described by Lewis?Share a time when you found Lewis’s quote, “What? You too?” to be true. 
• Is desire (eros) inherently dangerous, or can it be holy? Reflect on whether your own experiences of longing or romantic love have ever opened a door to deeper spiritual truths.
• What does it mean to love someone without self-interest? Consider how genuine love, as seen in parenting, caregiving, or mentorship, involves seeking the well-being of another person without expecting anything in return.
• Does the vocabulary of love in English impoverish our expression of it? Explore how having one word for love in English contrasts with languages like Greek or Spanish. 
• Should we understand all love—natural and divine—as part of a continuum? Debate Emily’s hot take: Are love’s forms so intertwined that strict categories risk misunderstanding how human beings actually love?

Suggested Reading

• The Four Loves by C. S. Lewis   
• Love and the Postmodern Predicament: Rediscovering the Real in Beauty, Goodness, and Truth by D. C. Schindler
• Faith, Hope, Love by Josef Pieper